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captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions >> brown: president obama cuts short his vacation to head back to washington, while harry reid says the country is headed toward the fiscal cliff. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> warner: and i'm margaret warner. on the "newshour" tonight, we have the latest on efforts to avert the looming deadline from todd zwillich of public radio international. >> brown: then, geo-politics and children: russia moves to end adoptions by american parents. >> warner: what austerity measures look like at street level: we have a report from athens. >> by the end of 2013 greece would have a worse depression than the great depression in the u.s. >> brown: a player in campaign politics, but what of the current debt debate? we talk with tea party ally, matt kibbe. >> warner: and as e.p.a. chief lisa jackson steps down, we assess the track record of the administration's environmental agency. >> brown: that's all ahead on tonight's "newshour." >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. b
jackson steps down, we assess the track record of the administration's environmental agency. >> brown: that's all ahead on tonight's "newshour." >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> warner: five days and counting with plenty of tit-for- tat charges, but no agreement in sight. that, in short, summed up the state of affairs in washington today as the fiscal cliff deadline loomed, january first. it would mean more than $600 billion in across-the-board tax increases and automatic spending cuts. >> come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have today. if we go over the cliff, and it
. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. on the newshour tonight, we look at this first cabinet change for the president's second term with david ignatius of the "washington post" and journalist and author james mann. >> woodruff: then, we turn back to the tragedy in newtown, connecticut, as more victims are laid to rest one week after the shootings. >> brown: speaking out for the first time since the massacre, the nra's wayne lapierre rejects calls for new limits on guns. >> i asked congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> woodruff: and ray suarez talks to mark glaze, director of the pro-gun control advocacy group mayors against illegal guns. >> brown: plus, we hear from high school students from across the country, and gwen ifill talks with secretary of education arne duncan. >> schools have been forever the safe haven, often safest places in the community. and we need to continue to do everything in our power to make sure that they are. >> woodruff: kwame holman updates washington's
. >> brown: plus, we hear from high school students from across the country, and gwen ifill talks with secretary of education arne duncan. >> schools have been forever the safe haven, often safest places in the community. and we need to continue to do everything in our power to make sure that they are. >> woodruff: kwame holman updates washington's spending and tax stalemate after house republicans decide not to follow the leader. >> brown: and mark shields and michael gerson analyze the week's news. >> woodruff: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> bnsf railway. >> support also comes from carnegie corporation of new york, a foundation created to do what andrew carnegie called "real and permanent good." celebrating 100 years of philanthropy at carnegie.org. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and friends of the newshour. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >>
the symptom or adding to the problem. >>> and can anyone beat sko brown? >>> good day. we're live in washington this afternoon. the lines of communication between the president, leaders of congress are open. whether those lines are used repeatedly over the next few days to reach a fiscal cliff deal is anybody's guess. joining me now for our daily fix, nbc's kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly, i want to start with you. senator scott brown just tweeted out to all his followers that he was getting on a plane heading to washington. the president has apparently sent over a new deal to the senate. what can you tell us about this new fiscal cliff deal that president obama has sent over to senator leaders? >> well, the power of social media to get the word out. gop sources say in the conversation with the president, he indicated that he does have a bill he would like to bring forward to the hill today. they have not seen that. it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation
captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions >> brown: president obama and congressional leaders met face to face for the first time in weeks, in a last-ditch effort to avert the fiscal cliff. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> warner: and i'm margaret warner. on the "newshour" tonight, we have the latest on the chances for a breakthrough-- just four days before automatic tax hikes and spending cuts hit. >> brown: then, we turn to india. ray suarez looks at the violent protests and public anger sparked by the gang rape of a young woman. >> warner: john merrow has the story of a group of california charter schools that aim to be the model-ts of education. >> america has lots of terrific schools. people open great schools every year, but they typically open just one. nobody has figured out how to mass produce high quality, cost effective schools. >> brown: we remember general norman schwarzkopf-- the man who commanded american-led forces in the persian gulf war known as "desert storm." >> warner: plus, mark shields and david brooks analyze the week's news. >> brown: that's
mass produce high quality, cost effective schools. >> brown: we remember general norman schwarzkopf-- the man who commanded american-led forces in the persian gulf war known as "desert storm." >> warner: plus, mark shields and david brooks analyze the week's news. >> brown: that's all ahead on tonight's "newshour." >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> support also comes from carnegie corporation of new york, a foundation created to do what andrew carnegie called "real and permanent good." celebrating 100 years of philanthropy at carnegie.org. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: the final weekend has now arrived before the fiscal cliff hits on new year's day and with it, more than $600 million in tax hikes and spending cuts. in a last bid for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arr
and scott brown, take a look at their sparring this year. >> i think what you're referring to is the fact that professor warren claimed she was a native american, a person of color. and as you can see, she's not. >> senator brown wants to raise an issue about my character, then i'll lay it out there. you know, when i was growing up, these are the stories i knew about my heritage. i believed my mother and my father and my aunts and my uncles and i never asked anybody for any documentation. >> well, i'll tell you, scott brown obviously lost that race. with john kerry going to state, scott walker's probably going to run in june, they could be serving together, what do you think about that? >> she knocked him out like manny pacquiao got knocked out, so forget that. she beat him down this last race, trust me. >> barack obama dealt the knockout blow. it wasn't this candidate, she was a very, very weak candidate by any standard. she's beloved by progressives but she won because barack obama was at the top of the ticket, let's get real. >> scott brown has a 58% favorability rating, it's likely he
's a possibility. of course he lives in connecticut, i wouldn't absolutely rule that out. >> how about scott brown? >> scott brown has a tough decision to make. because with kerry going to the state department, this will create a special election. and scott brown lost in a tough 2012 presidential election year. bu he did win in 2010 in an off-year election. he's going to look at his numbers and say do i have the numbers in an off year. >> but, susan, he'd be running three times within six years. >> it's a lot of money to raise. it's a lot of campaigning to do. ip think it's a little difficult to come off of a losing campaign. he did win in an off-year, but he also won in a special election. i actually wouldn't be surprised if he was biding his time to run for governor. >> michael, what's interesting about scott brown, if you watched his concession speech, this did not seem like a man whofgs ready to leave politics. >> i'm not sure that pick-up truck of his could handle the mileage. >> remember, he's got that blue collar appeal. and that does play with many massachusetts voterst. >> hey, thank you,
the information that ted kennedy jr. will not run. scott brown doing well in all the polls. president obama will be fully engaminged in pass pass. how is that looking? they don't have a big horse to run. >> the polls show a good chance of scott brown being able to at least have the even money to win back a senate seat in massachusetts. when you talk to the democrats, they say look, the way that scott brown was able to win in 2010 were under very special circumstances. huh a democratic candidate who was not running a good campaign. the democrats were caught unaware and very surprised. you had that very tough debate on health care. you have the vacancy and democrats say you won't have all the situations at the end. they might be able to beat scott brown in a special contest. >> always tough. you think they can pull it off. lastly it was about chuck hegel, feeling it from the left and the right. the defense built up and every time he takes a twitter, he seems to take out chuck hegel. it was a process by which the president gets leaked out. >> two problems that are besetting chuck hegel. he is
needs every democrat that they can from the white house point of view. and scott brown is considered such a strong possibility for the republican side to take away the seat, in other words, that, as you said, the democrats are pulling in the big guns. >> erin, what do you think? is this clearly an important race for the democrats, more so than the republicans somehow? >> well, it is, but do remember that when scott brown, as a senator, scott brown and as a republican has often vote the with democrats when the white house needs him to, so even though the white house would like a certain democrat and a certain vote for their proposals, scott brown is somebody that they could court if he then still wins that seat as a republican. >> do you think this is a do-over for them not necessarily helping out the democratic candidate in the race against scott brown? >> it may be. yes. it absolutely may be, but, remember, that the white house has a lot more political capital now after the president won re-election and the numbers are back on his side, where they weren't at the beginning of 2010 wh
. as you can see, stocks plunged. shortly after noon, senator scott brown posted on facebook of all things that he was headed back to washington because the president had reached out to the gop leadership with a proposal. then the markets bounced up a bit. but then cnbc's john harwood tweeted the white house denied skost brown's post and markets dropped again. thanks, john, for that. then came a late day surge on news that speaker boehner called the house back to washington, and late today we learned that the white house is holding a conference call with ceos on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations. so maybe things will change once more again tomorrow. joining me now to discuss the business ramifications and what the markets think of all this, the editor of thegrio.com and msnbc contributor joy reid. >> hey, richard. >> hi, joy. do we also have fortune magazine's assistant, yes, excellent, managing editor, leigh gallagher. thanks for joining us, too. wall street seems to have been naive, maybe a little simplistic, about washington's ability to get the deal done. do you think they're
're saying it's better than this one? >> yours has a charlie brown aspect to it. >> i think it needs me. >> reporter: what patrick needs and has is a christmas tree, with a nice plump one that grazes the ceiling rather than pierces it. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> that will definitely make you look twice, no doubt. thank you so much for starting your morning with us. much more ahead on cnn saturday morning, which starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. it's 8:00 am on the east coast, 5:00 am in the west. >>> powerful national rifle association, here's tom foreman. >> hey, randi, nra officials were quiet in the days following the newtown, connecticut, shooting, giving people time to mourn. now they are speaking up and they have a lot to say. despite protesters, the president and public opinion increasingly pushing against the gun lobby, the national rifle association sent a sharp message to its leader, wayne lapierre, no retreat. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with an a gun is a good guy with a gun. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriat
, you have to pick up the ham today. no big deal. we make a honey mustard ham. very easy. brown sugar and add in the zest of two oranges. for that, a couple of sprigs of thyme all chopped up. while you mix that together, take some whole ground mustard and slather it on top of the half of the ham. it's like a little spackle, you know what i mean? we're building a meal here, so we need spackle for all of the layers of love we put onto it. >> what do you like? >> i like it because it has texture and bite to it. we put something sweet. it's a little tangy as well so it cuts through the brown sugar. you go ahead and put your brown sugar mixture right on top of it. you can use your hands and smash it in. get in there, willie. let's do this. >> here we go. that's a lot of sugar, too? >> yeah, it is. ham is already salty, so it's nice to add sugar to it. into the roasting pan herele a little bit of orange juice. what will happen is as this cooks in the oven at 375 degrees, a little bit of the juices are going to run down. you go in, and in about 15 minutes scoop it over the top. right before
. he endorsed him in the primaries, the issue was a guy named scott brown, who is a former republican senators from massachusetts, narrowly lost his race to elizabeth warren and now what we'll have, there will be a temporary appointment and a special election in massachusetts. and, scott brown, notwithstanding my home state is democrat, is leading all the democrats, and the issue with kerry, it would cost a democratic seat, likely in the senate. >> rick: i want to go back to the idea the president badly wanted sutures rice to be the next secretary of state and made no secret about it and she had to go and withdraw her name from consideration. now, assuming john kerry wins confirmation, we'll talk about the process in a minute, does it matter if a secretary kerry is sitting down with a foreign adversary and negotiating this treaty or those sanctions or something like that? is that sort of a tactic a foreign power could use against him in a negotiating session? >> i really don't think so at all. senator kerry has been there negotiating and representing or country as a u.s. senator and g
. a new station finds that senator scott brown is in strong position should there be a special election to fill john kerry's seat. the poll found that 58% of voters still have a favorable opinion of scott brown. >>> that is better than other potential candidates. but one name not included in the poll is ted kennedy, doctorjr. he is giving it special thought to run. that means a kennedy could be back in the senate and that would make some very, very happy. >>> up next, polls just closed in eand their nationwide vote on the constitution, what does that mean for true democracy in the region? [ female announcer ] what does the anti-aging power of olay total effects plus the perfecting color of a bb cream equal? introducing the newest beauty trend. total effects cc cream c for color. c for correction. [ female announcer ] fight 7 signs of aging flawlessly. cc what's possible. ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ m
. jonathan, we start with you. massachusetts, with we get to bring up the name again, scott brown, but we have to add to this ben aflack. >> that is right, not only is there an election to be had. but there could be an interim appointment, you could think of a kennedy as a possible can dated for that, you have three others that may be interested in that seat, any number of names, scott brown probably the leading candidate, and william weld may be interested in that spot, so there's a lot of names floating out there. we will have to see what shakes out and of course, i'm going to lead in a little bit to somebody in another state, with ben afflack, and you may see ashley judd to ballot this year. >> i think you were reading my notes. let's talk about ashley judd you see her at all the kentucky games. she is at all the basketball games. she is potentially going up again a five term senator here. is it possible that ashley judd may take the nod here? >> mcconnell is worried. he and polling about ashley judd, if he is polling he is worried. his numbers are not great and his colleague was not h
. and scott brown with a command been lead in a lot of the polls. can any democrat give him a run for his money? >> i think so. i think several members have talked about running. it's a very democratic state. i think the republican party brand is at an all-time low. by the time we get to the special election in march or april, it will probably be lower based on the performance this week, so i think we'll have a real good shot. the white house and party are going to commit to do whatever they can to make sure we're competitive. >> can i respond quickly? >> very quickly. >> scott brown is a different kind of republican, very moderate. most massachusetts individuals really like him a lot. his only downfall is he was running for reelection in a heavy presidential year. >>> a major turning point for the housing market. we'll have that next. >>> president george h.w. bush is in guarded condition. a family spokesman says his doctors are cautiously optimistic. he's alert, talking with his family, but a few setbacks have kept him in the hospital, including a persistent fever. >>> it looks like 201
quarterback. on top of this, brown was a guest in the mitchell home. he heard about this and called it reprehensible. but the bigger thing in an ironic twist, brown is a guy who is suing the nfl for compensatory damages for injuries related to football back in his playing days. so i think brown is going to reach out to mitchell and smooth it over. that's a horrible admission. >> and then quickly this heart-warming story. a painter out of baltimore. >> your hometown. 21-year-old darrin guest, what a great story. he spent most of his life battling muscular dystrophy but he's become an amazing artist. among his subject, members of the baltimore ravens. they have really embraced him so much so that one of the ravens commissioned guest to paint a portrait of his late brother. and obviously terrific work. very impressed not only with his work but with this young man and what he's doing with his life. e let me give you a quick reminder. bleacherreport.com for all your news. you can read about that and their amazing run. >> thank you. >>> next hour of cnn "newsroom" begins right now. >>> ha
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to be the panacea that i think governor brown and the california legislature had predicted. last year as a matter of fact i think we created about 3,000 jobs in green energy, that's total. that's all renewables. and at the pace that jerry brown promised, 500,000 new jobs over the next 10 years, it will take him 167 years to actually make good on that promise. david: by the way, the "wall street journal" looked at the government's figures, the federal government's figures about how many jobs were supposedly created by wind power, by a 4 billion dollars wind power project involved over 30 wind power farms, and the government claimed there were 7,000 jobs. the journal sent reporters and called in to each one of those locations, found out there were only 300 jobs. the government said 7,000. in actuality there were only 300. you can't even depend on government stats to back up their job creation numbers. >> well, they put a tremendous amount of investment into this green jobs right now. and frankly the thing we worry about is governor brown has now mandated that 33% all of energy has to come from rene
springstein. but both should be glad i wasn't in this category. i've got a mean james brown. hit it, guys. ♪ >> wait a minute, wait a min ult. second thought, i'll save it for 2013. thanks for watches. i'm al sharpton. "hardball starts right now." >> sky fall. let's play hardball. >> good evening. i somewhere a message from the tea party members everywhere. destroying government is not good politics. you are acting against the majority rule right now. you are trying to bring down the majority government by obstruction. people will remember. people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you don't have to be as clear as i but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to
brown who does very well in special elections. he's the republican who stunned the world in 2010 and grabbed a seat. he lost it in the tough election this time around but in a special election, a low voter turnout, he'll be strong and we're not seeing much from the national democrats yet and i think they got a real problem here. >> frank, talk about that. because obviously if the democrats only -- and duval patrick wants someone interim in the post aend not run in the special election, wouldn't it make sense that person would gain the traction they need in a special election to face-off against someone with star power like scott brown? we look at the latest wbr poll with 58% favorable even after the bruising against elizabeth warren. do we know if he wants it? >> we don't know officially. his father died a couple of days ago so all attempts to get to him is put off and you saw him election night, came out and gracious and talked about coming back, the sub text there was there's a special election and farewell address to the u.s. senate, last couple of weeks ago, he said the same
is going on right now according to rich mcconnell. >> what we got was a facebook post from scott brown who said he was come back to washington and jumping on an airplane to review some new proposal from the president that they expected to get. the whole afternoon has been spent by reporters trying -- trying to figure out what was going on. now harry vaed responding to mcconnell so let's right to it. >> he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not delivered solutions to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that it would give to middle class americans. that -- that passed the senate. now, we know the republicans have buried themselves in procedural roadblocks in everything we're trying to do out here and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue slipped, because it will be blue slipped. mr. president, how does the american people retook the that? there was a bill introduced by the ranking member of the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin
. it is a great product. tina brown is one of the legends of the industry right now and if anybody can figure out how to do this transition from the print advertising model to a tablet, internet, online model, it is going to be tina brown. she has had one of the greatest careers you can ask for in journalism and i trust her leadership as she looks to steer the next phase. host: how often do you post? guest: usually twice, three times a week, sometimes more. i have a lot of flexibility. i have a great editor who worked with me sometimes. we go back and forth. it is pretty good. they generally have asked me -- i do not have to deal with commodity news unless it is a huge breaking story. the idea that they want me to get scoops and unique angles. that can be at times a real challenge but it is also a very rewarding approached. host: here is arlington on are democrats' line. caller: hello. i believe in all honesty. i am a democrat. the four people killed is hurting the bed and is disgraceful as a democrat. i see no end to this in washington. maybe there is no come back from it. i want to know what yo
. do you agree with this? i think scott brown is smiling this morning? i think a race against ed markey well-known in washington, respected here and has taken strong positions on climate change and other issues. he's not a household name in massachusetts. scott brown is. there's a totally different electorate in this special election. scott brown likes this match upup. mike, would you call him the favorite, or does that go too far? >> i think he'll have multiple candidates in that field because several other members of the congress might rung because they risk nothing. they don't risk the congressional seats. ed mackey malden has been there are a long time. but i think scott brown has a small smile on his face. thanks very much. happy weekend. brian, you going to do sports? >> i'm going to do sports. i like how you say markey. >> he always introduces him from massachusetts. >> coming up, the jets find out that greg mcelroy will back up once again. so is it tebow time in noshz? >> let me take a guess. >> first off, you're not going to believe this one. i'm going to start mark sanchez. >>
brown is next. dagen: some of today's winners on this shortened trading session. they spoke. almost $27 a share. ♪ dennis: the blame for the fiscal cliff gridlock falls squarely on the side of both politicians from the democratic and republican side. john, what do you think? >> i think we can fix it. i do not think we will for a long time. both parties are to blame. i think president obama has been prepared to go over the cliff for a long time. he started the negotiations putting a lot of red lines down and demanding more. it is created by both the democrats and republicans. i think we will maybe get a small deal, but the really big can will be kicked down the road to further impoverished american citizens, working people, to finance big and ever intrusive government. the only answer, in my opinion, is to have strict term minutes for u.s. politicians. it used to be that politics was a vocation. now it has turned into a career. they are most interested in getting reelected so they continue their career. they forget the nation. it is very apparent in our country. in america, it has gone
. the brown and the gray. what are the differences between them and how are they clashing now that we get closer and closer to the fiscal cliff? >> the brown and the gray is a phrase i've been using for the last few years to describe the two giant generations that will shape american life in the coming decades. the brown is the millennial, the most diverse in american history. over 40% nonwhite. the gray is the aging baby boom which is joining the silent generation in a huge senior cohort that is 80% white. and they have very different political inclinations, preferences and different interests at stake in the fiscal cliff and budget negotiations. on the one hand, taxes verse spending and so does the kind of spending. discretionary spending mostly investments in the future. entitlement spending mostly income security for the older generation. >> so who benefits if we do cross the fiscal cliff? >> i think there is no question that getting the debt and deficit under control is in the interests of younger generations so they are not saddled with debt solely for our current consumption. but h
.c. judy brown is co-director of the project. i want to start with you. what do you think is the most important thing we need to do? >> thanks for having me. we have big things we have to do. voters are fed up with a broken election system and politicians who have tried to manipulate the law sos that people can't participate for their own partisan gain. what we have to do to fix this is we need to either go big or go home. what i mean by that is it is time for us to have national standards around running state and federal elections. in order to get there, we really are going to have to have a federal law that is passed or a constitutional amendment that will give us these national standar standards. right now, we have 13,000 election jurisdictions in this country that run elections 13,000 different ways? that's the part we have to fix. if we get the national standards, make it explicit in the constitution, we have a right to vote, all else will come from that, including fixing registration, fixing the time it takes us to vote. that's the big idea of where we have to go in this country
youngs. i have a browning over/under, if you want to know what the business end of it looks like, come through the house. it won't matter if i'm the "new york post" or "new york daily news" or not. people who own guns, publish it. that is the point. this is a safety factor. this house protected by smith and wesen, you mean business. >> kimberly: i have a bumper sticker. >> greg: this reminded me in allentown where you once lived people would put alarm signs on their houses when they didn't have an alarm that used to tick me off because i pay for the alarm. >> andrea: i had a fake car alarm for the car, i couldn't afford the alarm, so i was one of those people. you are a former magazine editor. this is hardly irresponsible. there is a way to do the story like there always is, they could have done it with journalistic integrity, publish the number of people in each town or went town by town. this is basically demonizing the gun owners as well. this is a manhattan based paper. suburb of manhattan. they always do this. they treat gun owners like they are sex offenders. now it's not -- the
is mike duffy and susan page and our cnn political analyst ron brown steen who has a day job. >> the at the national journal. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. from what we learned, we're going over this thing. >> we're either going over the fiscal cliff or the house is ultimately going to have to pass a bill that amajority of house republicans oppose. the most significant thing we heard was that from congressman latourette that john boehner wasn't wed to the rule that says the leadership won't bring a bill to the floor with a support of the majority from the majority. clooirts they don't overlap. there's no bill that can get a majority ofhouse republicans they would sign. either going over the cliff and have to pass a bill with the house. >> i thought we would have a deal maybe not a small deal and not a dig deal. i don't think na anymore and it's more likely going over the cliff. the effect of doing that on the economy and effect of the sense washington can't govern itself. thaetsd what we heard from republican house members and hear from the white house. it's not catas
brown and folks like that and get to the 60 threshold and break the filibuster and if he was able to do that and it went to the house floor, there's no doubt it would pass and probably get enough republicans at the end of the day. the question is a, would he be able to break the filibuster in the senate, we don't know if that would happen. would boehner put it on the house floor and he said from day one, any plan he would like to see the majority and the republicans in the house move forward. if it were to go to the house i am very confident from conversations i've had that it would pass. >> nbc's luke russert. always appreciate the insights. >> nbc news senior political editor mike murray also digging this joining me live. president obama using the bully pulpit of his office to put pressure on congress. "meet the press" tomorrow and take a listen to part of what he said yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> up
irresponsible. jonathan, you look at the fact that they're not being honestabout it. senator scott brown wrote heading back to d.c. just learned the president reached out to senate gop leadership with a proposal. it is the first such proposal to be put forth. first proposal? the president put multiple proposals on the table. but he's not the only one, jonathan, that has said this. just listen to senator mcconnell today. listen to this. >> i say i'm a little frustrated because we've been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. the president chose to spend his time on the campaign trail. now, republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> just to be factual, on november 29th, the president made his opening offer to the gop. mcconnell actually burst into laughter. you can't laugh at a non-proposal. on november 17th, the president made a second offer with concessions on taxes and entitlement. so here's three occasions. yet, they claim no proposal. or this is the
income tax increases. some of the new england moderates, scott brown and susan collins. it doesn't seem like it would be as challenging to get something out of the senate. he is not going to stick his neck out and get something to the senate floor to have the house blow it up. >> marty, we have heard voices saying the same thing. you have tom coal saying we should go long with the tax increases. >> even in the minority. the republicans were 20 votes short. we sometimes forget, that's significant. they were only 20 votes short. nancy pelosi and the democrats, the idea of getting all the democrats to sign and bring the bill to the floor. if you can get 15 it 20 republicans to also sign on, maybe the tom cole types, they say we are not going to get a better deal and we don't want the party to pay hell for this. >> it seems unlikely. it's almost unheard of for a minority party and force action by the majority party on the floor. it might sound like a nice idea and say we are all unified. if you find the 15 or 20 republicans, good luck. they would be outcasts in their conference. as it is, t
business and expanding them on backs of black and brown people. and non-violent drug offense means, you know, you do some things that the -- amnesty international reportedly young white people are doing but are given a knock on the back. hand, don't do it again. we have to find a way to say let's forgive people. especially those that have not committed violent crimes. i have a brother that has been serving prison now for 23 years. accused of a violent crime. we think he is innocent but we understand the separation between those who have been accused of violent crimes and those that have done things not worthy of the kind of disproportionate penalty that they receive at the hands of the justice system. >> i want to thank you both. not only for sharing ideas but sharing your life experience which is difficult but vital. thank you for being here, john. >> thank you. >> singer/songe eersinger/songe forte. after the break she may still be on vacation on beapluto. we are bringing you the finer most of 2012 on "now." [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind.
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